Ford Fusion Service Manual 2017
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Is there a service manual for the sport that we can buy? I usually buy these when I plan to keep the car for a while. The OEM is seriously lacking. Free PDF Downloads for all Engine sizes and models for Ford Fusion.
My 2017 Ford Fusion service manual specifies an oil change at 10000 miles. The dealer told me at 9500 I was overdue by 6000 miles and their requirement is 3500 miles. Is this a dealer scam or am I required to abide by a dealers unwritten policy? Go by the MANUAL that came with the car. (You may also download a PDF version online.) There IS NO break in oil and there is no early first oil change to remove the imaginary break in oil. The first oil change in most new cars is now 10,000 miles.
(check your owners manual to be 100% certain about YOUR specific car!) If a dealer representative says otherwise, ask to see where it says so IN YOUR MANUAL, not a printed sheet. Indicate that you need to call FORD customer service before authorizing any work. I’d find another dealer (after talking to FORD customer service to inquire about who is right and possibly politely let them know who your Dealer is.) Good luck, and read the whole damn manual, Yes, it is huge. The 10,000 mile oil change is a real thing, but it usually (check manual!) requires the use of FULL SYNTHETIC OIL, which costs more than the cheap stuff.
Don’t cheap out on OIL! While working at my client 2 years ago, I actually sat over the wall from the Ford Fluids and Lubrication Technical Specialist who specs Motorcraft Oil and authors the Oil Change Schedule in the owners manual.
He’s a degreed chemical engineer, with an advanced degree as well, and has been working in that role for 30 plus years. And I asked him this question, because he would know the truth. He said to follow and heed the oil life monitor light/indicator, as it says in the owners manual.
He also told me that the “3000” oil change was accurate in 1950 when engines ran straight oil. (API-SA) He said that since that time, almost all modern oils are GF5 base stocks with alot of detergents. He also said that most name brand oils are a mix of GF5 and PAO and that there was a lawsuit that allow this mix to be called “synthetic blend.” But he said it doesnt really matter because GF5 base stocks are a highly refined and modified oil product that are more chemistry than dinosaur. He said, its more important make sure you run the correct weight oil (5w-20) and the proper API level (SN/SN Plus). He said that generic companies will save money by certifying at an older spec like SF, because they can use cheaper lower grade oil stock (junk oil/recycled oil) and less detergents which are expensive. (SF was obsolete after 1988) He said modern oils can go 10,000+ miles, but thats not so important.
You should follow the light. The way the oil minder light works (without revealing anything proprietary) is:. Engines are durability tested using SAE standards and a second set internal standards that are proprietary (more strict than SAE). Oil is captured at various service intervals and chemically analyzed by both the internal oil lab and an external research lab ( a well known one down in texas).
Both labs are ISO certified. Oil degradation/remaining oil life is determined from the chem results. The oil life is modeled in an algorithm and monitored by the PCM. The oil life is available/view-able to the customer in the cluster He said that if the oil fails the durability testing (dirty/coked/acidity/detergent thermal breakdown), they either improve the Motorcraft Oil Specification or change/improve some of the engine rotating assembly and durability test again. Finally, I asked him and he said dont put transmission oil in your engine as a substitute. Its spec’ed completely differently and its a thinner oil because it doesnt see the heat range of an engine.
Its got a completely different additive/detergent package and he has no idea what will happen if you do that in a Ford Engine because they have never tested an abuse case like that. And referred me to the PQI (Petroleum Quality Institute) website.
Overall, I learned a lot from his experience and speaking with him. His work is much more precise than some service advisor’s vodoo number. Does really look like someone in the dealer is pulling a new specification First the manual is the official oil change warranty rule to respect 10,000 miles. Since it is a 2017 there has not been yet a recall to specify the different mileage oil change. I am not aware or diesel engines in a Ford in America.
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Second check the oil type as normally synthetic is the oil valid & conform for a 10,000 miles oil change. If you or your dealer used a non synthetic oil, yes then the oil change would have to be 3500- 4000 miles max and is required to change. 2015–18- Diesel Engines require a specific oil in order to meet the EPA standards. Mercedes had to change TWICE the spec to a low ash oil that is only for a diesel engine. I am not aware or diesel engines in a Ford in America. There are world wide dozens of synthetic oil manufacturers that meet the conform 2017 Ford Fusion engine.Ecosport or other engine model.
The correct specification for Synthetic in all Mercedes, Porshe, Audi, BMW is good for now 15,000 miles before a oil change. Maximum oil change interval The quality of the lubricating oil is continuously reduced in operation. The more stressful the operating conditions for the engine oil (in particular high temperatures and high fuel entry), the faster the decrease in oil quality. A modern engine oil consists of a highly complex mixture of base oil and additives. Additives are oil-soluble agents for protection against scuffing and wear, for neutralization of acid combustion products and for the prevention of sludge and deposits to name but a few examples.
The additives reduce in continuous operation. The base oil is also subject to continuous chemical aging. This limits the service life of the engine oil. The performance limits are reflected in the specified oil change intervals.
MB engine oil specifications for passenger car diesel engines (with diesel particulate filter)(can also be applied in some spark ignition engines): Limited permissible content of ash-forming components to protect the diesel particulate filter: MB 226.51, 229.31, MB 229.51, MB 229.52. MB 229.51 is only approved for 3 of the 7 groups of gasoline engines that the 229.5 is approved for according to the MB oil approval chart 223.2. If the 229.51 and 229.31 superceded the 229.3 and 229.5 then these approvals would be obsolete which they are not. So while there are some exceptions/crossovers, the 229.3 and 229.5 are the gasoline specs and provide the best performance in these engines. The 229.31 and 229.51 provide the best performance in their diesel engines. For 229.51 to be backward compatible with 229.5 and 229.3 then it would have to be approved for all petrol engines.which it is not. Here’s the nuance: there exists normal driving conditions & so called “severe” driving conditions.
Not aware how exactly Ford defines it, but for Hyundai I own not only dusty or, say, mountain-y driving environments falls into the latter, but, for instance, a lot of short trips (less than 4 miles) & frequent start-stops (which is, yes, just a city cycle). And that’s the point where manufacturers recommendations differs a lot: 7500 for normal, 3000 (or 3500, don’t recall it precisely) for “severe”. Check your manual for that, and evaluate what you have. Now it comes to the dealers themselves: from my experience in CA & WA, some of them eh, let’s put it this way: tends to consider it severe by default. Like, “there are constant traffic congestions on SF Bay Area freeways - hence, you’d be frequently stopping/starting inevitably”. That sort of things.
Some dealers, in turn, doesn’t do the trick & trust your discretion. Unfortunately, statistically the latter are not prevailing, at best. From my experience with 6 different ones, most dealers are scum when it comes to service. My 2017 Ford Fusion service manual specifies an oil change at 10000 miles. The dealer told me at 9500 I was overdue by 6000 miles and their requirement is 3500 miles.
Is this a dealer scam or am I required to abide by a dealers unwritten policy? First and foremost, oil changes will entirely depend on your driving habits. How often you drive, how hard you are on your engine, and the type of vehicle all play a part in maintenance for your individual vehicle and use case. That being said, CBC Marketplace, a consumer protection segment on CBC in Canada, just finished an investigation into this in March of 2018.
The ultimate outcome was that oil changes should be done once a year, or as often as the vehicle owner’s manual states, assuming normal driving conditions of around 16,000 km per year. Go by the owner’s manual and ignore the BS from the dealer. He is just trying to generate revenues for himself. Ford dealers are also bad about over-charging for air filter replacements.
My local Ford dealer wanted over $110 to replace the air filter on my F-250 truck. I can buy one at the auto parts store for about $25 and it’s a job that I can do easily myself. The problem extends further than the Ford brand. In my city, there is one guy who owns multiple dealerships with various name brands. He runs a shady operation at all of them. (I have a relative that used to work for them.) By contrast, my local Toyota dealer operates fairly when it comes to service. The prices are high, especially for “official” Toyota parts, but in ten years I’ve never had a problem of having unneeded work pushed on me.
Not every dealer is underhanded, but there are enough of them out there that it pays to find out who they are. Tell the dealer you would like to meet his engineering staff. Not his service personnel, but the people he has with advanced degrees in chemical and mechanical engineering that evidently know more than the people who designed the car. Their “requirement”? I hope I could hold out long enough to ask them WTF they think they are to be issuing requirements to anyone before laughing in their faces. Look, personally I go 5000 miles between changes because I’m set in my ways and plan to hold on to my car. Oil is cheap in the scheme of things.
But if the manual says 10k, then you are meeting the requirements set by the factory to keep your warranty in force. There is no plot at the factory to make your car wear out prematurely.
As far as I know Ford still uses their Intelligent Oil Life Monitor. We’ve had two Ford vehicles with and it has always gotten us to 10,000 miles before needing a change. If you were in one of the “severe” categories mentioned by others the IOLM would recognize that and specify shorter changes. Anytime we’ve had our cars (Fusion, Escape) serviced at a Ford Dealer or QuickLane (the service dept name at most Ford dealers) they’ve always tried to shorten that interval.
I can’t blame them, if they can sell us an Oil Change every 5000 miles instead of 10,000 miles then they make twice the money. If they can try to threaten a 3000 mile OC interval then thats a little over three times the money. We stick with Ford QuickLane because it’s pretty cheap for what you get and there is always a coupon to make it cheaper. I don’t trust the free inspection though, they always try to up sale on things that don’t need to be performed. Follow the OLM for the oil changes and you’re good. For everything else follow the maintenance schedule in the manual.